app02 Mon, 31 Aug 2026 13:14:57 +0000 Fireside (https://fireside.fm) Two Psychologists Four Beers - Episodes Tagged with “P(doom)” https://www.fourbeers.com/tags/p(doom) Mon, 31 Aug 2026 06:00:00 -0400 Two psychologists endeavor to drink four beers while discussing news and controversies in science, academia, and beyond. en-us episodic Yoel Inbar, Michael Inzlicht, and Alexa Tullett Two psychologists endeavor to drink four beers while discussing news and controversies in science, academia, and beyond. yes psychology, beer, academia, science, controversy Yoel Inbar, Michael Inzlicht, and Alexa Tullett fourbeerspod@gmail.com Episode 133: What's the Environmental Cost of AI? (with Andy Masley) https://www.fourbeers.com/133 6f444751-a959-4ef3-856f-a046357b4def Mon, 31 Aug 2026 06:00:00 -0400 Yoel Inbar, Michael Inzlicht, and Alexa Tullett 133 What's the Environmental Cost of AI? (with Andy Masley) full Yoel Inbar, Michael Inzlicht, and Alexa Tullett Andy Masley joins Yoel and Mickey to talk about a claim that's made him (in)famous: using AI chatbots doesn't meaningfully affect your carbon footprint or water usage. We ask Andy what data centers actually do with water, why "ten times a Google search" is not a useful metric, and why people really don't want data centers built near them. 1:47:19 yes <p>Andy Masley joins Yoel and Mickey to talk about a claim that's made him (in)famous: using AI chatbots doesn't meaningfully affect your carbon footprint or water usage. We discuss what data centers actually do with water, why "ten times a Google search" is not a useful metric, and why people really don't want data centers built near them. </p> <p>We also talk about Andy's involvement in effective altruism, which criticisms of it he takes seriously, and whether a grant from an EA funder should make you trust him less. Plus, some self-driving car discourse, and Yoel tries to drink a bottle of bourbon.</p> <p><em>Finally, a small correction from Andy: "I misspoke at 48:00 and said you'd need to send 150,000 prompts to raise your emissions by 1%, I got my wires crossed with how much you'd need to double your emissions and the actual number should be 1,500 per day."</em> Special Guest: Andy Masley.</p> AI, data centers, effective altruism, animal welfare, autonomous vehicles Andy Masley joins Yoel and Mickey to talk about a claim that's made him (in)famous: using AI chatbots doesn't meaningfully affect your carbon footprint or water usage. We discuss what data centers actually do with water, why "ten times a Google search" is not a useful metric, and why people really don't want data centers built near them.

We also talk about Andy's involvement in effective altruism, which criticisms of it he takes seriously, and whether a grant from an EA funder should make you trust him less. Plus, some self-driving car discourse, and Yoel tries to drink a bottle of bourbon.

Finally, a small correction from Andy: "I misspoke at 48:00 and said you'd need to send 150,000 prompts to raise your emissions by 1%, I got my wires crossed with how much you'd need to double your emissions and the actual number should be 1,500 per day."

Special Guest: Andy Masley.

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We also talk about Andy's involvement in effective altruism, which criticisms of it he takes seriously, and whether a grant from an EA funder should make you trust him less. Plus, some self-driving car discourse, and Yoel tries to drink a bottle of bourbon.

Finally, a small correction from Andy: "I misspoke at 48:00 and said you'd need to send 150,000 prompts to raise your emissions by 1%, I got my wires crossed with how much you'd need to double your emissions and the actual number should be 1,500 per day."

Special Guest: Andy Masley.

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